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Monday, June 9th, 2003
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So over 20 hours of compiling later, Mozilla Firebird is ready to run! It looks nicer than mozilla. And that's its only advantage. It's just as unresponsive--press a mouse button, wait 2 seconds. The smooth scrolling just underscores how slow it is. Of course, this must be disabled by editing a config file; it hasn't made it into the menus yet. That config file also has to be edited to change the size of the memory cache. Left to its own devices, Mozilla Firebird eats up as much memory as it can, forcing everything else into swap. While there is a preferences menu option for the disk cache size, there's nothing for memory cache. With the memory cache properly subdued, it now uses exactly as much memory as mozilla.

And then we come to the parts of the GUI that I hate. Why must we have separate text entry inputs for URLs and web search? I only have 1024x768 to work with! In mozilla, I can do both from the same field. If it's a web search, I just press down before I press enter. And not having a throbber by default? Aaaargh!!

So, there you go. Mozilla Firebird. Not fast enough for my slow laptop, not good enough for my fast desktop.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2003-06-09 11:48 am (UTC)

no need to edit a conf file
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2003-06-09 01:36 pm (UTC)
Riiight, I keep forgetting about that!
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[User Picture]From: the_chuck
2003-06-09 12:17 pm (UTC)
hum, i dunno. i'm running firebird now, and i don't have a problem with it. :/
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[User Picture]From: axiem
2003-06-09 12:22 pm (UTC) That doesn't sound like the Firebird that I use.

Mine is responsive, fast, and doesn't have a websearch thing: I do it from the URL bar itself.

The memory part I'm inclined to agree with, but I'm on windows, so it doesn't bother me that much, since everything eats up memory in Windows.

Right click on your toolbar, select customize. There's your throbber.

Whatever a throbber is...
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2003-06-09 01:42 pm (UTC)
My laptop is a P233/MMX. What I was hoping for from the Firebird project was Netscape 4 interface speeds with Mozilla rendering speeds.

How do you do a web search from the URL bar? When I type a search in, I just get a proxy error. And there's no dropdown option to make it realize I'm trying to search.

I figured out how to get the throbber onto the toolbar. (The toolbar configurator is way cool, I'll admit) But I have no idea why it's not in by default. The throbber is what makes it a Web Browser! :)
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From: thedexter
2003-06-09 02:12 pm (UTC)
It's kind of clumsy, the search features-- if you type in more than one word it'll usually figure out you're trying to search, but else you can type in "google " or do the other quick searches. If that isn't in your install, make a new bookmark and call it "Google search", with the location, and keyword "google". You can do this with any other search engine, just with replacing the term with %s and then making up a new keyword... I have searches for IMDb and Everything2, myself.
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[User Picture]From: axiem
2003-06-09 02:28 pm (UTC) uh, what is the throbber?

I use keywords for my searching. Then again, all I ever use is Google.

the keyword for a google search is "google"
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2003-06-09 03:11 pm (UTC)
Ah, okay. If I were going to continue to use Firebird, I'd set that up. Though, if all you use is google, the mozilla way is faster because you don't have to type google :)

A throbber is this:
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[User Picture]From: pyrop
2003-06-09 02:48 pm (UTC)
The icons at the beginning of the tabs throb, so if you're someone like me who constantly has 5 tabs open the lack of throbber by default isn't that important.
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