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Saturday, December 6th, 2003
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Covered with snow, a little, outside. I am happy inside.

Some time ago, my digitally imported stream stopped working. I figured they moved the servers around, and I was too lazy to find out the new address, so I just stuck with nectarine.

Today, I went to look up the new address... and saw that you now have to pay for the 128k stream. You know, digitally imported, when you were begging for money because of the new music tax thing, I chipped in. But for $9/month, I would expect a little person to pop out of my computer and hand me a SACD of the day's music.
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[User Picture]From: dormando
2003-12-06 11:01 am (UTC)
I always wondered how they managed to stay alive with 128kbps streams.

Say, you listen to the 128kbps stream for literally 12 hours a day, for the whole month. That is likely around 40G of data transferred. Which means they'd be earning less than a quarter per gigabyte you user. That's well less than my at-cost charges for bandwidth (which is currently pennies over at-cost for my provider).

I'll assume they pay as much as a quarter per gigabyte of bandwidth, given super-duper deals here and there. If you listen only 8 hours a day/etc, it'll give them a slight profit to start paying for hardware, site bandwidth, people, the free streams, etc ;)

I dunno. I was surprised too when I went back and saw the lack of streams. I've just been listening at 96kbps or less for a while.
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2003-12-06 12:18 pm (UTC)
Interesting... I'm not sure what kind of market there is for streaming mp3s, but I think they've priced themselves out of it. I definitely am not listening 12 hours a day :)

I have it on now at 96k, and it sort of works in the background with crystality adding some high frequencies. But in some tracks, the mpeg noise is just really bad.
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[User Picture]From: suppafly
2003-12-06 07:41 pm (UTC)
they kinda trade advertising for bandwidth and a lot of the bandwidth is donated, I don't think they really pay for anything.
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[User Picture]From: dormando
2003-12-06 07:53 pm (UTC)
I've been in and out of dot coms for a while now, I think you're sorely overestimating ads. I doubt their free streams cost them anything, but they can only support so much. For $9/mo, you get a stable 128kbps+ with a guaranteed slot.
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[User Picture]From: noodleboi
2003-12-06 11:33 am (UTC)
$9 a month? A friend of mine said he got himself access to 128kbps streams for $2 last friday. I don't know for what period of time that is, though...

I'm listening to the 96kbps stream, but I admit, the 128kbps sounds a lot better.
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2003-12-06 12:23 pm (UTC)
Maybe it was a special? They don't seem to have it anymore. I think $2-3/month would be pretty reasonable.
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[User Picture]From: dormando
2003-12-06 02:14 pm (UTC)
They have (or had) a $2 for two days "trial" for any of the service levels.
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[User Picture]From: noodleboi
2003-12-07 02:18 am (UTC)
Ahh, then that might be what he purchased. I'll ask him today.
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From: ex_md744
2003-12-06 11:57 am (UTC)
Aren't all you guys hep? Why would they pay the tax and keep playing mp3 when they could switch to vorbis?
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2003-12-06 12:35 pm (UTC)
I think the MPEG license fees are nothing compared to the CARP fees that go to the RIAA.
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From: ex_md744
2003-12-06 04:48 pm (UTC)
... so it doesn't matter if you're broadcasting music with the artist's/producer's/sony's/whatever permission or not, you just have to pay a tax on webcasting?
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[User Picture]From: suppafly
2003-12-06 07:40 pm (UTC)
isn't satellite radion about $10 a month?
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2003-12-07 05:35 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it looks like XM radio is.
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[User Picture]From: suppafly
2003-12-07 05:36 pm (UTC)
and that's a lot more stations than di..
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