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Saturday, June 15th, 2002
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MOD of the minute: Zodiak - Respirator

Also, in case anyone is interested, I've attached the latest incarnation of my uber-workstation. Dual AMD 1800s, 200GB IDE storage, 18GB SCSI, 512MB RAM. Costs $1700, so I dunno about actually /buying/ this. Still uses Tyan Thunder K7, so if you ditch the scsi, it'd save hundreds.

Component           Model                                        Price
MAINBOARD           TYAN THUNDER K7 S2462UNG                    407.00
RAM                 CRUCIAL 512MB ECC REG                       192.00
CPU#0               AMD ATHLON MP 1800                          157.00
CPU#1               AMD ATHLON MP 1800                          157.00
HDD#0               CHEETAH X15 18.4GB 15KRPM                   177.00
HDD#1               MAXTOR 4W100H6 100GB 5400RPM                122.00
HDD#2               MAXTOR 4W100H6 100GB 5400RPM                122.00
DVD                 PIONEER DVD-106S                              0.00               
VIDEO               MATROX G450                                   0.00
TUNER               HAUPPAUGE WINTV                               0.00               
NETWORK#0           (builtin)                                     0.00
NETWORK#1           (builtin)                                     0.00               
SOUND               SBLIVE VALUE OEM                             30.00               
CASE                LIAN-LI PC68 USB                            152.00               
POWER               NMB 460W                                     93.00
HEATSINK#0          THERMALRIGHT AX-7                            35.00
HEATSINK#1          THERMALRIGHT AX-7                            35.00               
                                                  Total:       1679.00
The stuff that's for $0 is built-in or I already have.
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From: ex_md744
2002-06-15 01:08 pm (UTC)
All that and you get a g450 and an sb live? :P
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2002-06-15 01:15 pm (UTC)
G450 because it's not for games, and I already have it.
SBLive because it has the best linux support.
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[User Picture]From: nonexistent
2002-06-15 01:53 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty happy with my Abit K7-RAID, and it's significantly lower than that Tyan board. But that's just me.
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2002-06-15 02:01 pm (UTC)
It's significantly lower because it's not dual-processor and has no onboard SCSI or network ;)

I'm using an Abit KT7A-RAID on my desktop machine right now, and I'm fairly happy with it too.
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[User Picture]From: nonexistent
2002-06-15 02:21 pm (UTC)


True. Personally, though, I dislike onboard NICs; they make installing your own a bitch. (My old Digital PII-266 had an onboard 10Mbps NIC; I had to uninstall the drivers and force the OS to not see it in order to to get my 100Mbps NIC to work.) As for not being SCSI or dual-processor, I didn't really want to shell out the money for a SCSI drive or a second Athlon 1.33Ghz anyway (I bought it right as AMD was released the 1.4's, about a year ago; so the 1.33 was somewhat more expensive than the price you listed for an Athlon MP 1800).
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[User Picture]From: techpimp
2002-06-15 02:33 pm (UTC)
Ditch the SCSI.

Buy a Tyan Tiger MPX. The MPX chipset is not some 'MP lite' chipset, so I don't know why you abhor it. It is better than the MP chipset. Tiger MPX has a built-in 3C905. Get Tyan model S2466N-4M, it has fixed USB. The only real problem with the MPX is you must use 66mhz PCI cards in the 64bit/66mhz PCI slots. (Or slow everything down to MP-chipset speed).

Now, if you want SERIOUS hard drive performance, put a 66mhz ATA RAID card (like the Promise Fasttrak 100 TX2, $100) into your 66mhz slot, and do a 0/1 RAID with 4 nice 7200RPM drives, like what md is doing. This will give pretty amazing performance.

Use Athlon XP's. Not more than 1800+, because sometime after that they changed them to disable MP. This is your call, I guess. Check the various hardware forums, ask about it.
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[User Picture]From: techpimp
2002-06-15 02:34 pm (UTC)
Oh, and of course, if you can, wait for Opteron.

Though affordable 2-cpu ClawHammer boards are still nearly a year away. 9 months on the inside.
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[User Picture]From: kvance
2002-06-17 09:38 am (UTC)
I dunno, I only really need good disk performance for the OS. I think I'd end up spending more with RAID and MPX. Also, there was not one positive comment about that promise fasttrak controller on LhD.
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